Monday, February 16, 2009

Let us not forget the coming of Sharia Law in the US and the end of free speech in the west

http://www.buffalonews.com/437/story/578644.html

Let's see how much main stream press this story gets. I am willing to bet very little.

How about this one. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5709892.ece

I am willing to bet if his views were anti-Christian that he would be allowed in. You should google his film "Fitna". A very powerful documentary film. Much of it is obviously based on fact. What ever happened to "freedom of speech"? If there was to be any rioting it would be by radical islamists and would again show their intolerance to others views and their support for terrorism. If you watch the film and you see the parts where little kids are interviewed and the hate that spews from their mouths you will wonder why our governments and the media continue to try and hide these things from us.

3 comments:

Baxter said...

This is probably one we agree on Mark - at least with respect to Islam. I am very supportive of Secular Humanism and I am grateful that our founding fathers included the establishment clause while omitting any mention of "Christ" or "Christian" in our constitution.

Mark R. said...

However the judiciary has read the clause incorrectly by substituting their own views for the founders. The founders meant that we all have the freedom to worship however we want. They were almost all Christians and believed that the choices would be between various types of Christianity and Judaism. However they never meant for there to be this so called "wall" between church and state. This was mentioned by Thomas Jefferson in one writing and he actually didn't even believe it. All you have to do is search how many times the founders mention faith and belief in God to figure this one out. What they did mean was that there should be no official state sponsored religion like you have in Saudi Arabia or in Germany with the state sponsoring Lutherans and Catholics. They never meant for there not to be religious terms or statements of belief on government owned property and land. If they did than why do so many government buildings built a long time ago mention God and a creator. I am a firm believer in allowing everyone to believe whatever they want including having an absence of belief in anything. But I am strongly against the posting of things on government property that criticize others beliefs like what happened in Washington State. Whatever happened to ignoring things or turning the other cheek? There is something seriously wrong with this nation. Far too much anger flowing around.

Baxter said...

Mark - you are reading the establishment clause too narrowly. I believe the founding fathers wanted a wall between church and state - to protect, not harm, religious freedom. They knew that the two don't mix and if they did each would pollute the other. If government put it's thumb on the scale for one religious point of view it would be shortchanging the rest.

Many founding fathers - including Jefferson and Franklin - were not Christians. Jefferson actually edited the bible of supernatural events while retaining ethical and moral lessons. It is known as "the Jefferson Bible". Most, if not all of the founding fathers believed in God though not in the way of today's bible-thumpers. It was the Age of Enlightenment and the Age of Reason.

If the State of Washington wants to make room for the nativity, it must do so for the rationalists as well. We agree that non-believers are also protected by the First Amendment.

FWIW - I am not a believer in any of the established world faiths but I'd like to believe there is a higher power.