Wednesday, October 1, 2008

Are we at War?

Are the rights of Americans harmed by detention and pseudo-torture of enemy combatants?
Are we at war or are we fighting organized crime?
Where does the battlefield stop?

5 comments:

Hags said...

Actually, this question is just too hard.

How about this one instead:

If Barney Frank gets married in one of those leftist eastern states, can you be arrested for shipping a wedding gift from an address in Montana? (Transporting gifts across state lines for non-traditional purposes) If not, and God I hope not, then what would an appropriate gift be?

Yours thoughtfully,

Hags

I'll be in the bar.

Jim G. said...

Hags you hag, who knows. Our Libertarian friends have had a cow over supposed infringement of rights of some enemy combatants. I way we are at war and on the battlefield, the rule of law is suspended. They have mined for data, not invaded our privacy. They have been rough on prisoners of war and spies not American citizens. They, these evil terrorists, mean us harm and do not deserve the protection of our constitution.

You thoughts, if sober.

Gary Ponzo said...

It's the old argument--If you have nothing to hide . . . I'm not a terrorist, so come check me out. The problem is, do you want the FBI going through your computer files to see what you've been viewing? You might be innocent, but proving it could be costly.

Hags said...

I think we are at war, but that does not suspend every moral or legal code of behavior. There are good reasons for the Geneva Conventions, and we must adhere to our constitution at all times. Facists and thugs of many descriptions have used times of crisis to suspend rights and impose sanctions against specific segments of the populace. "Knowing our cause is just" has often led to injustice.

We need to live to our laws and our ideals because of who we are and who we hope to be. War is hell, and that is well known. 9-11 was tragic, but we don't need to extend the loss through our own behavior.

There is no question regarding the need too protect our borders and our citizens.

However, we must abide by our constitution and we should observe the Geneva Conventions. This war will last 100 years. Actually, longer than that. The gulf between us and the Muslim world is vast, and the hatred towards us is deep.

If we want to win the broader war we must conduct ourselves, politically/diplomatically, militarily, and economically, in a way that fosters good will with non-combatants and non-participants.

There is more at stake here than catching bin Laden.

OK, now try to think of a fun question.

Jim G. said...

I cannot beleive that I waved a Red Cape in front of the Libertarians and they passed.